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> <channel><title>Comments on: Warp 1.0</title> <atom:link href="http://ksuther.com/blog/2007/12/21/warp-10/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://ksuther.com/blog/2007/12/21/warp-10/</link> <description>Mac apps and miscellaneous &#124; Kent Sutherland</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2012 11:31:42 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: unixwzrd</title><link>http://ksuther.com/blog/2007/12/21/warp-10/comment-page-1/#comment-3091</link> <dc:creator>unixwzrd</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:14:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.ksuther.com/weblog/?p=50#comment-3091</guid> <description>This thing is great, a life saver for me!  With Warp, MondMouse and Leopard&#039;s Spaces, I now have similar abilities I used to have with CodeTek Desktop Pro.
Several items I&#039;d like to mention.  First, some productivity hints mostly for how to get these three items working nicely together.  Mostly having to do with Focus Follows Mouse, Raise on Focus, and Edge Flipping.  Some of my favorites.
1. Put Dock.app in the &quot;Application Exclusion&quot; list of MondoMouse.  This will prevent inadvertent mouse actions being sent to the dock which can do things like startup a terminal or cause you to switch to another space when not intended when moving to a space beyond the Dock.  The Dock application can be found in /System/Library/CoreServices/Dock.app
2. If using MondoMouse, assign Finder.app in Every workspace in the Spaces configuration pane.  This will prevent snapping back to a Finder window in another space.
3. Timing is everything... Set the timing faster for Warp than for Mondo mouse.  I happen to like things to happen fast, so I have Warp set to .1 seconds and MondoMouse Focus Follows Mouse set to .2 seconds.  Getting the timing of these two to work together is key to getting events to happen in a logical manner.  I also have the following set from a command line:
defaults write com.apple.dock workspaces-edge-delay -float 0.1
This makes the timing of moving windows between spaces the same time frame as Warp.
In all I&#039;m very happy to find this add-on.  Keeps my workflow the same.  I switched to Mac from Solaris/Linux and CodeTek Desktop Pro made my life bearable.  Virtue Desktops was good but had a few warts.
A couple of suggestions, a few have already been mentioned, but I&#039;ll throw my vote in here.
1. Make moving the mouse to the space all the way to the right wraps it back to the first screen on the left.  Same with moving from top to bottom, or as someone else called it  &quot;wrap-around&quot; mode or would that be &quot;Warp-around? :)
2. A small exclusion zone in the hot corners.  I activate my screen lock/saver by moving the mouse to the upper right corner.  Now I have to go to the most upper right space (I use a 3x3 set of spaces).
3. Because I use such a small delay in switching, sometimes I go back to the previous space due to the mouse not moving fast enough from one space to the other.  Perhaps when the mouse moves into the other space, offset its location relative to the edge far enough to not accidently switch back to the previous space.
4. Possibly add options in the Preferences Pane for the following Dock preferences and an option to restart the Dock:
defaults write com.apple.dock workspaces-edge-delay -float [some-floating-point-value]
defaults write com.apple.dock workspaces-wrap-arrows -boolean [YES&#124;NO]
5. Possibly outside the scope for Warp, but possibly for some other enterprising developer, would be to have a pager which I could park somewhere on my desktop giving me a tiny view of all my &quot;Spaces&quot;.  Showing small outline windows would be nice too.  Clicking in a a space in the pager would then switch me to the corresponding Spaces desktop.
6. I&#039;d also like to see some way to disable the &quot;snap-back&quot; behavior of Spaces.  Again, perhaps outside the scope of Warp.
Finally, let me say thank you for such a very useful utility.  It&#039;s helping me make the transition to Leopard a bit more bearable.  I highly recommend it to anyone who is used to this sort of multi-desktop environment.  The ability to switch from one space to another with the mouse rather than having to take my hand off the mouse and hit keys, the go back to the mouse interrupts the natural workflow.  Much like applications which have no keyboard navigation and force you to use the mouse rather than the keyboard interrupt your workflow in the opposite way.
Again, than you and much success!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thing is great, a life saver for me!  With Warp, MondMouse and Leopard&#8217;s Spaces, I now have similar abilities I used to have with CodeTek Desktop Pro.</p><p>Several items I&#8217;d like to mention.  First, some productivity hints mostly for how to get these three items working nicely together.  Mostly having to do with Focus Follows Mouse, Raise on Focus, and Edge Flipping.  Some of my favorites.</p><p>1. Put Dock.app in the &#8220;Application Exclusion&#8221; list of MondoMouse.  This will prevent inadvertent mouse actions being sent to the dock which can do things like startup a terminal or cause you to switch to another space when not intended when moving to a space beyond the Dock.  The Dock application can be found in /System/Library/CoreServices/Dock.app</p><p>2. If using MondoMouse, assign Finder.app in Every workspace in the Spaces configuration pane.  This will prevent snapping back to a Finder window in another space.</p><p>3. Timing is everything&#8230; Set the timing faster for Warp than for Mondo mouse.  I happen to like things to happen fast, so I have Warp set to .1 seconds and MondoMouse Focus Follows Mouse set to .2 seconds.  Getting the timing of these two to work together is key to getting events to happen in a logical manner.  I also have the following set from a command line:</p><p>defaults write com.apple.dock workspaces-edge-delay -float 0.1</p><p>This makes the timing of moving windows between spaces the same time frame as Warp.</p><p>In all I&#8217;m very happy to find this add-on.  Keeps my workflow the same.  I switched to Mac from Solaris/Linux and CodeTek Desktop Pro made my life bearable.  Virtue Desktops was good but had a few warts.</p><p>A couple of suggestions, a few have already been mentioned, but I&#8217;ll throw my vote in here.</p><p>1. Make moving the mouse to the space all the way to the right wraps it back to the first screen on the left.  Same with moving from top to bottom, or as someone else called it  &#8220;wrap-around&#8221; mode or would that be &#8220;Warp-around? <img
src='http://ksuther.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>2. A small exclusion zone in the hot corners.  I activate my screen lock/saver by moving the mouse to the upper right corner.  Now I have to go to the most upper right space (I use a 3&#215;3 set of spaces).</p><p>3. Because I use such a small delay in switching, sometimes I go back to the previous space due to the mouse not moving fast enough from one space to the other.  Perhaps when the mouse moves into the other space, offset its location relative to the edge far enough to not accidently switch back to the previous space.</p><p>4. Possibly add options in the Preferences Pane for the following Dock preferences and an option to restart the Dock:</p><p>defaults write com.apple.dock workspaces-edge-delay -float [some-floating-point-value]<br
/> defaults write com.apple.dock workspaces-wrap-arrows -boolean [YES|NO]</p><p>5. Possibly outside the scope for Warp, but possibly for some other enterprising developer, would be to have a pager which I could park somewhere on my desktop giving me a tiny view of all my &#8220;Spaces&#8221;.  Showing small outline windows would be nice too.  Clicking in a a space in the pager would then switch me to the corresponding Spaces desktop.</p><p>6. I&#8217;d also like to see some way to disable the &#8220;snap-back&#8221; behavior of Spaces.  Again, perhaps outside the scope of Warp.</p><p>Finally, let me say thank you for such a very useful utility.  It&#8217;s helping me make the transition to Leopard a bit more bearable.  I highly recommend it to anyone who is used to this sort of multi-desktop environment.  The ability to switch from one space to another with the mouse rather than having to take my hand off the mouse and hit keys, the go back to the mouse interrupts the natural workflow.  Much like applications which have no keyboard navigation and force you to use the mouse rather than the keyboard interrupt your workflow in the opposite way.</p><p>Again, than you and much success!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MarsCleanR</title><link>http://ksuther.com/blog/2007/12/21/warp-10/comment-page-1/#comment-3074</link> <dc:creator>MarsCleanR</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 20:27:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.ksuther.com/weblog/?p=50#comment-3074</guid> <description>this is a wonderful app. i only have been using it for 2 hours now and i can&#039;t even imagine being without it again! bravo!
i want to pick three suggestions mentioned above, &#039;coz i really miss them:
1) the ability to ignore the hot corners. as in fact traveling around spaces means going up/down and left/right, ignoring the hot corners wouldn&#039;t hurt traveling much!
2) the ability to ignore &quot;warp&quot; when using fullscreen-modus (i.e. dashboard)
3) the ability to use the dock in the hide/show-mode WITH warp (for now i turned hide/show-mode off, coz i really like warp!)
thanx again for the great work!
lukas</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a wonderful app. i only have been using it for 2 hours now and i can&#8217;t even imagine being without it again! bravo!</p><p>i want to pick three suggestions mentioned above, &#8216;coz i really miss them:</p><p>1) the ability to ignore the hot corners. as in fact traveling around spaces means going up/down and left/right, ignoring the hot corners wouldn&#8217;t hurt traveling much!<br
/> 2) the ability to ignore &#8220;warp&#8221; when using fullscreen-modus (i.e. dashboard)<br
/> 3) the ability to use the dock in the hide/show-mode WITH warp (for now i turned hide/show-mode off, coz i really like warp!)</p><p>thanx again for the great work!<br
/> lukas</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Nick</title><link>http://ksuther.com/blog/2007/12/21/warp-10/comment-page-1/#comment-3067</link> <dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 19:33:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.ksuther.com/weblog/?p=50#comment-3067</guid> <description>Chris,
I am getting past the hot corners problem by using a hotkey, instead of a delay on the edges.  I have my delay set to 0, and warp spaces by holding Shift when mousing the edge.  Works great, is liquid fast, and doesn&#039;t interfere with anything else.  This also works when vmware is fullscreen in one space!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p><p>I am getting past the hot corners problem by using a hotkey, instead of a delay on the edges.  I have my delay set to 0, and warp spaces by holding Shift when mousing the edge.  Works great, is liquid fast, and doesn&#8217;t interfere with anything else.  This also works when vmware is fullscreen in one space!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris</title><link>http://ksuther.com/blog/2007/12/21/warp-10/comment-page-1/#comment-3066</link> <dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:12:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.ksuther.com/weblog/?p=50#comment-3066</guid> <description>Great work.  A coworker and I talked about this when Apple first talked about Spaces and we got the initial developer release of Leopard after WWDC.  This feature was much needed and I was convinced (until Sept. 26th) that Leopard was going to ship with it and Apple was just hiding it.  :)
I want to echo a suggestion I saw up above.  I use hot corners heavily (for Expose, Desktop, Screen Saver mostly).  Can you give us an option to create a &quot;dead zone&quot; around the hot corner so I can use the hot corners without warping?  For now, I&#039;ve cranked the delay up really high, but I&#039;d love it if it just ignored the corners if you have that setting set.
Great work.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work.  A coworker and I talked about this when Apple first talked about Spaces and we got the initial developer release of Leopard after WWDC.  This feature was much needed and I was convinced (until Sept. 26th) that Leopard was going to ship with it and Apple was just hiding it. <img
src='http://ksuther.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>I want to echo a suggestion I saw up above.  I use hot corners heavily (for Expose, Desktop, Screen Saver mostly).  Can you give us an option to create a &#8220;dead zone&#8221; around the hot corner so I can use the hot corners without warping?  For now, I&#8217;ve cranked the delay up really high, but I&#8217;d love it if it just ignored the corners if you have that setting set.</p><p>Great work.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kerry</title><link>http://ksuther.com/blog/2007/12/21/warp-10/comment-page-1/#comment-3062</link> <dc:creator>Kerry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:18:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.ksuther.com/weblog/?p=50#comment-3062</guid> <description>Great thing, just what I needed. I worked around it until now with &quot;xgestures&quot;.
What really would be nice and &quot;top of the crop&quot; is instead of the key triggers, a click trigger (just as in VirtueDesktops) to prevent accidential switching.... and prevent the hot corners to be stolen from WARP. :-)
THANX!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thing, just what I needed. I worked around it until now with &#8220;xgestures&#8221;.</p><p>What really would be nice and &#8220;top of the crop&#8221; is instead of the key triggers, a click trigger (just as in VirtueDesktops) to prevent accidential switching&#8230;. and prevent the hot corners to be stolen from WARP. <img
src='http://ksuther.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>THANX!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
